I had a afterthought today about this meeting. Unless I missed it in the first hour, I don't recall hearing any status on the DOGE effort in regards to Palm Bay? IMO the State has a good case for excessive spending by local governments, it will be interesting to see what their verdict is on Palm Bay.
Just a distraction from the real issues for political points. Flooding, roads, development is what residents want to discuss. Now thanks to antagonistic article's like this, Palm Bay now has a lawsuit and the community is divided. Well done! If I were you, Id be concerned a slander suit isnt on the horizon.
"Just because you don't like what somebody says ... " Isn't that what we are discussing here, how he hurt your feelings with his words. Now you want to use your freedom of speech to silence his? SMH It's truly horrifying watching this unfold. Have you stopped to look at the wreckage? What you all did to this man and his community reputation is beyond wrong. You know he lost his job AND a board position bc of the "feeding frenzy" articles like this one created? Are you "woke" Tom? Did you know he has a wife and kids. Did you stop to think of what you unleashed on his children? Does that not matter or did you not stop to think he was human. Do you want him in the street, beaten bloody? Will that make you stop writing misleading things about him? Have you ever met face to face or even had a conversation? You know he is a Marine?
You have a responsibility using your words. This garbage is not why I subscribe to your Substack. Please go back to policy where facts are used instead of fevered opinion that is causing distress and havoc in the community.
Not sure where to start here... it sounds like you are defending the despicable, disgusting actions of Mr. Langevin! Making the public aware of behavior such as his is, in a PUBLIC POSITION, is CRUCIAL to maintaining democracy! I'm sure he is not the only individual in Palm Bay who feels this way, however, it does NOT represent the overall values of our City! The loss of his job/position and whatever blowback is a DIRECT result of HIS actions! It's called ACCOUNTABILITY! Choosing to ignore or excuse such behavior only allows for further degradation of societal values.
Seems you didn't read the same article I did. Exactly WHAT has Mr. Gaume said that could, even remotely, be considered slander? Reporting FACTS is not slander! If it is FACT, it can be repeated, WITHOUT repercussions. Maybe you should review the law. And exactly WHERE did Mr. Guame state ANYTHING about hurt feelings? I'm not sure you understand the concept "free speech" and what constitutes and does not. You have an absolute right to voice your opinion! However, when you are an elected official, you do so at the risk of losing that position. And lastly, WHERE, exactly, did Mr. Guame call you any name? Your defensiveness is clouding your judgment!
YOU are the one OBVIOUSLY emotional. That's the biggest problem with the politics today... injecting emotion. Once that is removed, actual communication can happen and compromise and resolution are possible. The us and them mentality MUST stop!
You comment tells me you did not research the post from Councilman Langavin. Just more outrage at someone who did not do what you and others are accusing him of. Taking words out of context creates hysteria.
Merijean, you’re right about one thing — I haven’t seen the full X post from Councilman Langevin. It seems to have been deleted, and what’s left are verified excerpts reported by Florida Today (Oct 1 2025), FOX 35 Orlando (Oct 3 2025), and The Palm Bayer. Those outlets quoted his own words like “Deport every Indian immediately” and “There isn’t a single Indian that cares about the United States.”
But even setting that aside, that’s not the real issue. The problem — confirmed in public record — is that Langevin used official City of Palm Bay letterhead to ask Governor DeSantis to release Robert Rundo, founder of a violent white-supremacist group convicted on federal riot charges.
That’s spelled out in the City Attorney’s memo to the Governor (Oct 3 2025), cited in council meetings and The Palm Bayer article “Palm Bay Council Tackles Censure, Flooding, and Public Trust” (Oct 16 2025). The memo called it “an abuse of public resources and official capacity,” and it became part of the 3–2 vote to censure him.
This isn’t about hurt feelings or “out-of-context” posts — it’s about accountability. Free speech protects private citizens, not officials using city authority to back a convicted extremist.
Accountability isn’t persecution; it’s what keeps public power honest.
You make statements in an attempt to instigate without siting whatever it is you are responding to!! You stated Mr. Guame called you "vile names." WHERE? This is now the THIRD time asked, yet you are silent. Taking words out of context? The letter Mr. Langevin wrote is available for your review... in FULL. However, his X post is not. Having it removed speaks volumes! Your points are ONLY emotionally based. No substantive words, just opinion. It makes you look ridiculous!
You should not be on social media w/such faint of heart. Senator Randy Fine has the exact same words all over his X account, yet no one has tried to have him removed from DC. In fact, he posted the exact same words, "deport them all" the very next day after Councilman Langevin's post. Crickets. I even tagged Tom here to perhaps write a scathing emotional post over Sen Fine's words, yet crickets again. It's ALL selective outrage. I'm sure if we spent countless hours going through everyone's social media accounts, we could find something that would offend us all.
We have a First Amendment right to speak our own words, if you dont like it, keep scrolling, turn your head, plug your ears. I dont see or hear his supporters complaining. I'm thinking you arent in his district as the majority of those that are complaining. Anyone with eyes can see this is just a distraction by Mayor Medina because once again, he has failed to address the important issues to the city, that benefits US ALL. not dividing the community like he is doing for his political benefit. Did you catch him saying "this is our city?" Who's city? How about "I will deport you!" You happy with happy with that? Give me a break.
I can finally credit Chandler Langevin with accomplishing something positive for Palm Bay: he’s provided a surprisingly accurate litmus test for identifying the folks in our community who condone racism, misogyny, homophobia, or simply poor judgment.
However, I suggest you take your own advice to heart—especially when it comes to holding elected officials accountable. The standards we expect from those who serve the public are, for good reason, higher than those for private citizens.
For the record, I’ve never questioned Mr. Langevin’s right to say whatever he wants—in fact, I support anyone’s freedom of speech. My issue isn’t with his words alone, but with his actions as a public official, and that’s exactly what the censure addressed.
It's remarkable how this thread demonstrates either serious challenges with reading comprehension, or perhaps just such a narrow worldview that anyone who doesn't perfectly align with your beliefs is seen as an enemy.
For the record, my critiques remain focused on public conduct and accountability, not personal attacks—unlike your own comments, which are the only real name-calling in this thread.
Healthy communities thrive on open debate and multiple viewpoints, not drawing lines between "us" and "the enemy" whenever there's a difference of opinion. I stand by the facts and welcome all perspectives, even when we don't agree.
Thanks Tom, good summary. My take, the censure measure went pretty well (even Mr Langevin's response had some reasonable aspects). This was all good until the Deputy Mayor along with the City Attorney revealed their due diligence on a Council letter to the State Ethics Committee, which indicated there is a much higher threshold to submit ethics violations, then everybody got tangled up in their underwear over funding outside councils and if the City Mgr or Attorney would oversee such a pursuit. My conclusion is, Council Langevin still has his vote, thus for now there's no election nullification. You are wise to point out the flooding issue. While the City is attempting to practice High School Civics here with a estranged Councilman, many residents are literally up to their ankles in water. Widespread flooding will influence more elections than some dopey Councilman publishing dumb statements on social media. The City is lucky the flooding hasn't been accompanied by the usual overflow of the City sewer system into the environment ( as far as we know) , Florida Today published a story that such a event did happen in Titusville.
I had a afterthought today about this meeting. Unless I missed it in the first hour, I don't recall hearing any status on the DOGE effort in regards to Palm Bay? IMO the State has a good case for excessive spending by local governments, it will be interesting to see what their verdict is on Palm Bay.
Just a distraction from the real issues for political points. Flooding, roads, development is what residents want to discuss. Now thanks to antagonistic article's like this, Palm Bay now has a lawsuit and the community is divided. Well done! If I were you, Id be concerned a slander suit isnt on the horizon.
Just because you don't like what somebody says. It doesn't make it slander. Point out exactly where I slandered somebody please!
"Just because you don't like what somebody says ... " Isn't that what we are discussing here, how he hurt your feelings with his words. Now you want to use your freedom of speech to silence his? SMH It's truly horrifying watching this unfold. Have you stopped to look at the wreckage? What you all did to this man and his community reputation is beyond wrong. You know he lost his job AND a board position bc of the "feeding frenzy" articles like this one created? Are you "woke" Tom? Did you know he has a wife and kids. Did you stop to think of what you unleashed on his children? Does that not matter or did you not stop to think he was human. Do you want him in the street, beaten bloody? Will that make you stop writing misleading things about him? Have you ever met face to face or even had a conversation? You know he is a Marine?
You have a responsibility using your words. This garbage is not why I subscribe to your Substack. Please go back to policy where facts are used instead of fevered opinion that is causing distress and havoc in the community.
Not sure where to start here... it sounds like you are defending the despicable, disgusting actions of Mr. Langevin! Making the public aware of behavior such as his is, in a PUBLIC POSITION, is CRUCIAL to maintaining democracy! I'm sure he is not the only individual in Palm Bay who feels this way, however, it does NOT represent the overall values of our City! The loss of his job/position and whatever blowback is a DIRECT result of HIS actions! It's called ACCOUNTABILITY! Choosing to ignore or excuse such behavior only allows for further degradation of societal values.
Seems you didn't read the same article I did. Exactly WHAT has Mr. Gaume said that could, even remotely, be considered slander? Reporting FACTS is not slander! If it is FACT, it can be repeated, WITHOUT repercussions. Maybe you should review the law. And exactly WHERE did Mr. Guame state ANYTHING about hurt feelings? I'm not sure you understand the concept "free speech" and what constitutes and does not. You have an absolute right to voice your opinion! However, when you are an elected official, you do so at the risk of losing that position. And lastly, WHERE, exactly, did Mr. Guame call you any name? Your defensiveness is clouding your judgment!
YOU are the one OBVIOUSLY emotional. That's the biggest problem with the politics today... injecting emotion. Once that is removed, actual communication can happen and compromise and resolution are possible. The us and them mentality MUST stop!
-- Registered Republican... WITH VALUES!!!!
You comment tells me you did not research the post from Councilman Langavin. Just more outrage at someone who did not do what you and others are accusing him of. Taking words out of context creates hysteria.
Merijean, you’re right about one thing — I haven’t seen the full X post from Councilman Langevin. It seems to have been deleted, and what’s left are verified excerpts reported by Florida Today (Oct 1 2025), FOX 35 Orlando (Oct 3 2025), and The Palm Bayer. Those outlets quoted his own words like “Deport every Indian immediately” and “There isn’t a single Indian that cares about the United States.”
But even setting that aside, that’s not the real issue. The problem — confirmed in public record — is that Langevin used official City of Palm Bay letterhead to ask Governor DeSantis to release Robert Rundo, founder of a violent white-supremacist group convicted on federal riot charges.
That’s spelled out in the City Attorney’s memo to the Governor (Oct 3 2025), cited in council meetings and The Palm Bayer article “Palm Bay Council Tackles Censure, Flooding, and Public Trust” (Oct 16 2025). The memo called it “an abuse of public resources and official capacity,” and it became part of the 3–2 vote to censure him.
This isn’t about hurt feelings or “out-of-context” posts — it’s about accountability. Free speech protects private citizens, not officials using city authority to back a convicted extremist.
Accountability isn’t persecution; it’s what keeps public power honest.
You make statements in an attempt to instigate without siting whatever it is you are responding to!! You stated Mr. Guame called you "vile names." WHERE? This is now the THIRD time asked, yet you are silent. Taking words out of context? The letter Mr. Langevin wrote is available for your review... in FULL. However, his X post is not. Having it removed speaks volumes! Your points are ONLY emotionally based. No substantive words, just opinion. It makes you look ridiculous!
You should not be on social media w/such faint of heart. Senator Randy Fine has the exact same words all over his X account, yet no one has tried to have him removed from DC. In fact, he posted the exact same words, "deport them all" the very next day after Councilman Langevin's post. Crickets. I even tagged Tom here to perhaps write a scathing emotional post over Sen Fine's words, yet crickets again. It's ALL selective outrage. I'm sure if we spent countless hours going through everyone's social media accounts, we could find something that would offend us all.
We have a First Amendment right to speak our own words, if you dont like it, keep scrolling, turn your head, plug your ears. I dont see or hear his supporters complaining. I'm thinking you arent in his district as the majority of those that are complaining. Anyone with eyes can see this is just a distraction by Mayor Medina because once again, he has failed to address the important issues to the city, that benefits US ALL. not dividing the community like he is doing for his political benefit. Did you catch him saying "this is our city?" Who's city? How about "I will deport you!" You happy with happy with that? Give me a break.
I can finally credit Chandler Langevin with accomplishing something positive for Palm Bay: he’s provided a surprisingly accurate litmus test for identifying the folks in our community who condone racism, misogyny, homophobia, or simply poor judgment.
However, I suggest you take your own advice to heart—especially when it comes to holding elected officials accountable. The standards we expect from those who serve the public are, for good reason, higher than those for private citizens.
For the record, I’ve never questioned Mr. Langevin’s right to say whatever he wants—in fact, I support anyone’s freedom of speech. My issue isn’t with his words alone, but with his actions as a public official, and that’s exactly what the censure addressed.
So now you call me vile names as reality sets in. Got it. How typical (and expected) of an emotional liberal. I thought better of you.
It's remarkable how this thread demonstrates either serious challenges with reading comprehension, or perhaps just such a narrow worldview that anyone who doesn't perfectly align with your beliefs is seen as an enemy.
For the record, my critiques remain focused on public conduct and accountability, not personal attacks—unlike your own comments, which are the only real name-calling in this thread.
Healthy communities thrive on open debate and multiple viewpoints, not drawing lines between "us" and "the enemy" whenever there's a difference of opinion. I stand by the facts and welcome all perspectives, even when we don't agree.
Bless your heart.
You have only confirmed your bias.
Thanks Tom, good summary. My take, the censure measure went pretty well (even Mr Langevin's response had some reasonable aspects). This was all good until the Deputy Mayor along with the City Attorney revealed their due diligence on a Council letter to the State Ethics Committee, which indicated there is a much higher threshold to submit ethics violations, then everybody got tangled up in their underwear over funding outside councils and if the City Mgr or Attorney would oversee such a pursuit. My conclusion is, Council Langevin still has his vote, thus for now there's no election nullification. You are wise to point out the flooding issue. While the City is attempting to practice High School Civics here with a estranged Councilman, many residents are literally up to their ankles in water. Widespread flooding will influence more elections than some dopey Councilman publishing dumb statements on social media. The City is lucky the flooding hasn't been accompanied by the usual overflow of the City sewer system into the environment ( as far as we know) , Florida Today published a story that such a event did happen in Titusville.
What matters most to me is the resolution and/or status on the Evans Center. I do not see any reference to that. Please address.