Thank you for the summary, Tom. I think it’s commendable how effective residents have been WITHOUT resorting to legal counsel!
2 points that may help in future protest actions are 1) drawing attention to the “business model” you outlined, aimed at deliberately devaluing courses (& surrounding communities); and 2) proposing viable optional uses for the property, similar to what citizens did with Hundred Acre Hollows (https://www.hundredacrehollows.org/).
The Hundred Acre Hollows model is a good reference. Viable alternative use proposals give decision-makers something to say yes to, not just something to say no to.
The law properly favors a property owners' right to use his property as he sees fit, as long as it doesn't cause harm to others' property rights.
So, you are not, as this article clearly stated, going to win an argument on an emotional response. You have to have some legal reason to stop any development that you are opposed to.
Reread the article. It explains that the law focuses on competing property rights and does not care about emotional responses. Crying "Greed" or "NIMBY" lose almost every time, unless you can find a reason based on law or governmental procedures not being followed (which are also codified in law).
We bought our house about a mile away from the Golf Course, shortly before it closed. I was considering taking up golf again and even created a spreadsheet to calculate how often I would have to play a round of golf to make a membership worth the cost. Then they closed, before I could decide, making "Not joining" the obvious choice.
I was the course superintendent of The Majors GC under Bayside Lakes Development Corporation. I can tell you that we did maintain those wetlands with no chemical sprays and hand pulled intrusive species in all of the mitigation areas on property. There is a business model in golf and I got this directly from the General Manager of Fore Golf that bought the property first before Joy. I said what is your business model? Scott Davey the GM said "Basically, we rape and pillage the place" I resigned in a short period working for Fore Golf, they also own Baytree National and have been actively trying to sell it. They bought LPGA International a few years back and I am sure the same model is coming to that property eventually. I don't know how they do not make money, My operating budget was cut in half immediately upon the sell of the property.
I don’t even live inside Bayside Lakes, but this issue angers me!
These residents purchased homes on a golf course for a reason.
This is another travesty in the livelihoods of the American people. Get an attorney!
Thank you for the summary, Tom. I think it’s commendable how effective residents have been WITHOUT resorting to legal counsel!
2 points that may help in future protest actions are 1) drawing attention to the “business model” you outlined, aimed at deliberately devaluing courses (& surrounding communities); and 2) proposing viable optional uses for the property, similar to what citizens did with Hundred Acre Hollows (https://www.hundredacrehollows.org/).
Thank you, Elizabeth.
The Hundred Acre Hollows model is a good reference. Viable alternative use proposals give decision-makers something to say yes to, not just something to say no to.
Appreciate you sharing it.
The law properly favors a property owners' right to use his property as he sees fit, as long as it doesn't cause harm to others' property rights.
So, you are not, as this article clearly stated, going to win an argument on an emotional response. You have to have some legal reason to stop any development that you are opposed to.
Thanks Tom A very interesting article Makes you wonder what is going on and how this happens. Greed over people Simple and unfortunately time tested.
Reread the article. It explains that the law focuses on competing property rights and does not care about emotional responses. Crying "Greed" or "NIMBY" lose almost every time, unless you can find a reason based on law or governmental procedures not being followed (which are also codified in law).
We bought our house about a mile away from the Golf Course, shortly before it closed. I was considering taking up golf again and even created a spreadsheet to calculate how often I would have to play a round of golf to make a membership worth the cost. Then they closed, before I could decide, making "Not joining" the obvious choice.
I was the course superintendent of The Majors GC under Bayside Lakes Development Corporation. I can tell you that we did maintain those wetlands with no chemical sprays and hand pulled intrusive species in all of the mitigation areas on property. There is a business model in golf and I got this directly from the General Manager of Fore Golf that bought the property first before Joy. I said what is your business model? Scott Davey the GM said "Basically, we rape and pillage the place" I resigned in a short period working for Fore Golf, they also own Baytree National and have been actively trying to sell it. They bought LPGA International a few years back and I am sure the same model is coming to that property eventually. I don't know how they do not make money, My operating budget was cut in half immediately upon the sell of the property.
Gary, thanks for the context. Appreciate hearing from someone who was there.